Episode 3x19

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JaneDtwo	Re: Episode 3x19	#21	[-]
Posts: 1290 (02/22/07 09:47:21) A-Dohring Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	See what you did, moku613? You invited us to ask questions! LOL. So, what is with Piz (hey, it rhymes!)? I doubt he is evil. That would make no sense. But is he guilty of something? Something bad enough for Veronica to reconsider her stanse on "nice guys"? In other words, is he a suspect in some case? Or is it personal in nature? Is he two-timing her? (I won't buy that, btw. Too little evidence of it prior to this ep.). Sorry to ask for specifics, but it's driving me nuts. You can just tell me if it's major enough for Veronica to -- if she finds out -- drop him. Pretty please? :)
PolarTruckin	Re: Episode 3x19	#22	[-]
Posts: 1737 (02/22/07 09:52:04) A-Dohring Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	My instinct is telling me not to get too excited about this whole "he's not who he seems" thing. I mean, what does that even mean? It's not saying he's a bad guy. Plus this was posted at TWoP: *Quote:* One last thing...I hate to give you guys false hope that Piz is a bad guy, I'll just cryptically say this and then will shut up on the matter....Everyone is innocent until proven guilty That makes it sound to me like there's nothing even definitite yet. Like something is found but we don't know what it means and it will probably be resolved in the last episode. I don't know, it sounds a lot like what people were saying about Duncan in season two. He was acting shady and hiding a secret but in the end it wasn't really anything that made him evil. And Veronica didn't even react to the fact he knew about the baby like it was a big deal. The whole dialogue about him not being what he seems reminds me of that so much. I don't understand how anyone can want Veronica and Logan to reunite when she's making out with a different guy passionately in this episode. That's so wrong and makes them both look bad and makes Veronica look even more fickle. It won't make me feel this big swelling of love for the ship if they get back together in episode twenty now. Because nothing would have changed and Veronica was all a twitter for another guy. While Logan seems happy with another girl, especially if he can actually be his badass OPJ self with this other girl and doesn't have to tone himself down. I'd rather have a bittersweet friendship moment at most between them and then if he lucks out with season four, he can start building them back together then. I think getting them back together this season from the spoilers I know so far would be a mistake. Because it wouldn't satisfy me, wouldn't comfort me . . . it would just feel like settling again when everything else is broken. And we've had too much of that.
Xander23	Re: Episode 3x19	#23	[-]
Posts: 39 (02/22/07 09:57:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm all about Logan and Veronica getting back together at any time so I can watch and enjoy the show that was at one time my favorite but not now it's not all I can say is thank god for American Idol it makes me miss this show way less .
JaneDtwo	Re: Episode 3x19	#24	[-]
Posts: 1290 (02/22/07 09:59:37) A-Dohring Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh, I have given up on LoVe reuniting at the last moment a long time ago. I just tried to make noises to make myself feel better about it. I was just looking for some kind of hope/indication at the end of the season/show that there's hope for them down the road. A look, a conversation, a mutual acknowledgment of things to come. A desire of some kind to work things out. I'd settle for Piz being out of the picture. I really would. I hate the stupid mook, and I can't even master enough energy to be interested in what it means that "he may or may not be who he seems." Exactly, Belinda, what does that even mean? Has he stole some candy from the community jar? Does he secretly listen to Celine Dione? Is he, gulp!, a vegetarian? Who cares! If he isn't a sinner or a not-so-nice guy, and is all hot and heavy with Veronica, then I don't even want to know. Much like Veronica can't get past Madison thing, I can't get past her being all physical with Piz. Just can't. Got excited by the possibility of it ending there for a moment. But now I am back to little hope.
Xander23	Re: Episode 3x19	#25	[-]
Posts: 39 (02/22/07 10:08:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I would just be happy if the show just got rid of Piz and Parker just get them off the show we don't need them Love can be single and working on their problems without third-parties in the mix . And what the hell is up with Logan one minute he loves Veronica now in the next second he wants Parker I don't buy it this show is going down hill and they are pissing off their most of their viewers . And if things don't change by the end of their season I hope they do go off the air and I'll just pretend it ended during the second season and that Love had their happy ending.
moku613	Re: Episode 3x19	#26	[-]
Posts: 52 (02/22/07 10:40:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey guys, I fear I've opened the floodgates yet I don't want to get anyone in trouble. So here's the deal, I'm just going to post something to take those of the ledge that may find themselves there and then I'll dissapear into the night, deal? Logan isn't over Veronica. And if I were a betting woman, (which I'm not but bear with me) by the end of 19, hope will spring eternal.
KathrineMerteuil	Re: Episode 3x19	#27	[-]
Posts: 150 (02/22/07 10:42:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thank you.
JaneDtwo	Re: Episode 3x19	#28	[-]
Posts: 1290 (02/22/07 10:43:56) A-Dohring Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* Logan isn't over Veronica. And if I were a betting woman, (which I'm not but bear with me) by the end of 19, hope will spring eternal. Seriously, where can I send you some flowers and a fruit basket? :) Thank you for giving me something to hope for. Honestly. I know it's all up in the air and stuff (and is hugely conditional on many things), but just for this, you deserve my undying gratitude. :)
barblong	Re: Episode 3x19	#29	[-]
Posts: 27 (02/22/07 11:17:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thank you so much!!! As long as Logan isn't over Veronica then there is hope. Veronica seeming happy with Piz (for the moment) doesn't bother me nearly as much as the idea that Logan had totally moved on. Veronica's relationships with the men in her life can & do change in a heartbeat so I can see her making out (ewwww) with Piz one minute & dumping him the next. Veronica & Logan are epic and one way or another they will find their way back to each other. I'd like to see them back together this season if this is it for the show but if they do get a 4th season (please, please, please) then I'd be willing to wait until next season to see a reconciliation because it would make more sense. I hate to imagine how RT & the writers would screw them up for another season but everything would be so rushed to put them back together in the last episode this season. Besides, if they do get another season you know they will just find another way to break them up in some devastating way that will crush us yet again. I really hope they find out if there will be another season before they write themselves into a corner either way.
Meowmama	Re: Episode 3x19	#30	[-]
Posts: 88 (02/22/07 11:19:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	EEEEEEE! After the horror of this morning I promised myself that I would never get my hopes up again where this show is concerned. Well, I lasted three hours anyway! I'll say it again: EEEEEEE!
ladygirl23	Re: Episode 3x19	#31	[-]
Posts: 18 (02/22/07 12:13:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Really? We can hope? I was beaten so much by the latest developments, that I put myself in 'not caring' place. And now my hopes are up again, and I'm afraid I'll pay for it.
samantha192	Re: Episode 3x19	#32	[-]
Posts: 5 (02/22/07 12:52:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Someone over at TWOP speculated that Piz's big secret might be that he told a bunch of lies to keep Veronica from Logan. Makes sense because they work together so much in the episode before this one.
GutterDaisy	Re: Episode 3x19	#33	[-]
Posts: 56 (02/22/07 12:56:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Seriously I wonder sometimes why I still watch this show!
sunworshipper	Re: Episode 3x19	#34	[-]
Posts: 336 (02/22/07 14:03:37) Veronica Martian Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* Logan isn't over Veronica. Sorry, this does nothing for me. I know that Logan isn't over Veronica. He could marry Parker and have 2.5 kids with her and I would still believe that he wasn't over Veronica and would take her back in a minute if he thought they had a real chance together. What I need to be hopeful is a sign that Veronica isn't over Logan. And acknowledges it, if only to herself. "Same dren, different planet."
samwg	Re: Episode 3x19	#35	[-]
Posts: 813 (02/22/07 14:33:08) LoVe Addicted Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* Veronica's relationships with the men in her life can & do change in a heartbeat so I can see her making out (ewwww) with Piz one minute & dumping him the next. Yeah, I love it when characters progress from one season to the next. It really makes all the drama worthwhile when you can see things are really going to be different this time around. I really hope this is the last season. I'm through with the "if we can just make it through ____, then ..." outlook. The "..." has never met expectations, it's not worth it. Veronica and Logan are never going to be written the way I want them. She's not going to change. He's not going to change. He'll pine endlessly and she'll swoon, judge, find someone better, then choo-choo-choooose him in the finale. It's great TV, right?? Is Parker already back in Denver for the summer? So what, Logan's going to break up with her over the phone the second Veronica lets him know she's interested again? For now? Until she gets tired of him again? Do you know if there are any Logan & Weevil scenes, or a mention of the Weevil-thinks-Logan-beat-Lilly story? That's like the only thing that would make me look forward to this ep, even though I know there's like a .06% chance of ever getting a scene about that. OPJ Logan could be fun, but not if he's gonna bend to Veronica's will or beg her to take him back the very next epsiode/scene. And if he doesn't beg, then they're not ending the season/series(?) together and that just blows. Evil Piz would be totally lame. I hope they don't go there. I would say I'm sure they wouldn't go there, but COMABABYWHYNOT.
JenniferH	Re: Episode 3x19	#36	[-]
Posts: 7896 (02/22/07 14:50:45) A-Dohring Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	And once again the biggie is there for me -- viewers are going to be force-fed physical intimacy between the two with people other than the other. I still think they'll be back together, but now, my latest batch of hope that there was a point to V/P and L/P is gone. Esp. if we're being given Veronica all happy and physical with Piz ... and they're apparently already doing press and cutesy stuff with them (some stupid CW video) that was NEVER done with L/V. I just hate it. God, I want this show over. The LoVe Shack \| Tomorrow is another day ... My Livejournal
GutterDaisy	Re: Episode 3x19	#37	[-]
Posts: 56 (02/22/07 14:59:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Knowing Logan isn't over Veronica does nothing to make me feel better about this whole thing. I have no dealt that Logan loves Veronica and will take her back in heart beat but I have dealts that Veronica truely loves Logan. I want to see Veronica chose to be with Logan and not because he saves her life or Piz turns out to be a bad guy. I don't want to see Veronica have one of her "Oh my God" moments because they don't last. I am just at the point will I really don't about this show anymore and that makes me sad because for a long time, this show is all I could talk about.
Echolls3	Re: Episode 3x19	#38	[-]
Posts: 140 (02/22/07 15:02:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I just wish if they were going to end the show they would tell the writers now.... They have eight weeks before airing the stand alones, that could give them time to alternate the plan and give a good series ending. I can't see them pinning all their hopes on the stand alones. They aren't even airing till the end of April and shows are generally chosen mid May before they even wrap up the stand alones. They will most likely only have ratings for two of the stand alones by the time the decisions are made. I agree they have taken couple with amazing chemistry and just destroyed it. It would be redeemable with another season.... showing them growing as friends, maybe dating around a bit and ultimately coming back together. Rob did create Lynn's death as a way to bring Logan and Veronica together so he knows what he has and has stated ultimately he sees them together but they but need to grow and that is why there needs to be more time. This show still has so much potential... I just hope we get to see it.
samwg	Re: Episode 3x19	#39	[-]
Posts: 813 (02/22/07 15:27:43) LoVe Addicted Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* It would be redeemable with another season.... showing them growing as friends, maybe dating around a bit and ultimately coming back together. I ... wholeheartedly disagree. It could have been redeemed in S2, but it wasn't. They didn't put L/V together until the last 5 minutes, and for what? Delayed gratification? So we could start S3 with a new love interests, and spend twleve episodes breaking them up? And for what? So they can put them with new characters until the eleventh hour, then put L/V back together in the last 5 minutes again? FOR WHAT? This show is beyond repair. Unless they bring in all new writers, and I don't know how I feel about that. They've gotten lazy with the mysteries. They went from season long arcs to shorter arcs and now to straight up stand alones. Character continuity is a joke, and why the hell should we care about characters when they just get written off the show or put on the back burner (Wallace, Weevil, shadow-of-his-former-self-Logan) in order to bring in a new guy. This show is cartoon! Sorry I'm so bitter, but that (what I quoted) is what I thought after S1, then again after S2, and I'm done.
cabod	Re: Episode 3x19	#40	[-]
Posts: 27 (02/22/07 15:51:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Where does 'Logan not being over Veronica' leave Parker? I have no sympathy for Piz, but Parker is a liked character and it would suck to see her treated like roadkill on the LoVe highway.

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