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I don't see that there's any point in hoping for anything at the moment. Rob has admitted himself that there is no closure in this episode on any of the issues. He did it on purpose, he shot himself in the foot and we all knew everything would be up in the air. That didn't need to be confirmed.

The only thing I was hoping for was for Logan to get his spine and/or balls back. That's all I'm interested in and it's the only reason I stuck around this long. Because in order to love this character I need to know he realized in the end that he was essentially a good man and deserved better.

I kind of don't see that happening given the build up. But hell, once more a glutton for punishment, let me lay my last frayed hope on the tracks. Any second now it's going to be a car crash.

Still not sure if Piz and Veronica break up, not sure what to think about that. I'm kind of happy if it's true that Logan doesn't beat up Vinnie even though I really would have bought Vinnie's character over the alternatives that had been listed. I honestly don't care if it's some nobody because at least then there would be no character ret-conning to deal with.

But yeah, I don't really care at this point if Piz and Veronica break up because she's kind of dead to me. So if she thinks the sun shines out of his flippy bangs, meh. Whatever. I can't muster the strength to get annoyed.

Problem is, I don't think Logan can have much of a spine if they're still talking about their issues and blahblah and their relationship is in any way "open". I know people would prefer that there is no note of finality and that there is some hope, but the hope I'm interested in is all about Logan's self esteem. And I truly believe he has to drop her ass unequivocally to even start rebuilding that self esteem. She's bad for him.

I just want him to walk away. No discussion necessary. Just go. This is the one moment in the history of the show where I truly take Rob's side by thinking emotional exposition really isn't necessary. If Logan walked away, I honestly don't think an explanation of any sort would be necessary because we've all gutterally felt every reason why he should have ditched her a long time ago.

That would be "closure" to me with Logan's characterisation because it would be growth, foward momentum and it would make somewhat of an arc out of his disastrous characterisation this season. He tried to change himself but she judged him anyway, he tried over and over again . . . and then realized it was all pointless and learned to accept himself. That IS an arc which would have continued the tradition of Logan being the only character to consistently have an arc and growth. I could have lived with that and exhaled with relief knowing (in my heart) that once Logan's tiny but oh so heavy burden was removed from his shoulders, he'd revert to his pre-Veronica snarkalicious self.

The fact that WOULD be closure and it WOULD make sense tells me it's not happening if we are to give any credence to LLL's spoilers. If there truly is no closure and Logan/Veronica have some kind of conversation about their issues - it's not happening.

Rob truly sucks for choosing to do this to his show, giving the fans that stuck through the suckitude absolutely no closure (okay, okay there aren't many but DAMN were they resilient). What sucks more is that according to reports Dawn still wants to work on future projects with Rob and Kristen. Those two were the names mentioned. The two characters in this tragedy that I most despise. Isn't that freakin' SWELL? Whatever. I'm actually pleased Jason Dohring wasn't listed anywhere near "Rob Thomas" for future projects because I want him to run far away from Rob.

But honestly if Logan oscillates between OPJ and Whipped [Impolite Word] in this episode because of Veronica-love, I will probably break something. Because his character will be forever tarnished, that moment will be freeze framed as definitive because it is the last chapter in his book, and I will lose all ability to try and twist some personal closure out of the show with fanfic. If Logan doesn't make a drastic change, step back and/or away (FOR REAL this time) then there is no hope for his character and he's just doomed to stay in this abusive cycle forever. And it's his own fault for giving her that power which means all my respect for him would die a quick, if painful, death.

I'd say "don't let me down, Rob" but why start kidding myself now?