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        <![CDATA[ I am not trying to be all Pollyanna here and defend these spoilers, but I have been thinking about all of them and have a more positive outlook ...1. When the detailed spoilers for M.A.D. and ATttD (them making out, Logan asking V to Catalina, Logan bringing the drugs, Veronica finding out the whole rape thing, being okay with D, making out with Logan not much later, etc.) came out, everyone cried foul, called them foilers, said they were horribly out of character and there was no way that... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So, I guess I'm saying that I want there to be some intent behind him rubbing the relationship in V's face -- that he knows exactly what it's doing to her, and that he's not so attached to Parker that he wouldn't (nicely) dump her if Veronica had actually reacted to all the blantant rubbing in and showed an interest in reconciling. Because he *knows* her and she *knows* him, as clarified in 3.08, and I won't be able to ship them anymore if the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don't think (or hope) that he's &quot;coldly&quot; using her, but I do want him to be somewhat conscious of the &quot;over-selling&quot; parts.  I think left on their own, L/P could have been a nice, carefree rebound-ish relationship.  That's the only thing that makes sense given where Logan's head was three episodes ago, knowing where it's going to be three episodes from now.  Not that I'm counting on this show to make any sense...<br><br>The way it's playing out, L/P is totally Duncan/Meg... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <b>samwg</b>, I always thought Logan was trying to get a rise out of Veronica, and that it was at least a part of the reason for his relationship with Parker. I don't, however, think that he is just coldly using her. More like he is kidding himself. I don't doubt that he likes her a lot. I also don't doubt that he realizes he isn't in love. The over-the-top schmoopiness is as much to convince himself as to convince others, Veronica included. It's not overt or deliberately planned, but it's... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Time for a new theory! (Fair warning, my theories never pan out <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->  )  Maybe the reason Logan is being so sickly sweet with Parker, and the reason Veronica keeps seeing So Much of it play out, is that Logan's main reason for being with Parker isn't to move on, but to get Veronica to snap out of her funk.  It's kind of a horrible thing to do to Parker, but we all know... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Let's face it, realistically, from a good writing, good story-telling, emotionally satisfying standpoint there's absolutely nothing -- nothing -- that can happen in the last few scenes of the show that would counteract what is preceeding it for LoVe.<br><br>But again, let's face it, very little this season was realistic, well-written, well-told or emotionally satisfying. <br><br>So, putting aside ... well ... everything (LOL), what would be a hopeful ending for me?<br><br>I wish I could give... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I think that's why I like the big fight followed by makeout - I don't really think of it as Veronica consciously running back to him. They would kiss and then be like, &quot;oh, fuck.&quot; Meanwhile, this also makes a lot of lingering feeling between L/V absolutely necessary to the plot. But if we got a payoff I liked enough, I could fanwank that in.<br><br>As much as I don't want Logan to be her punching bag anymore, I also don't want to see/think about her prostrating herself in apology... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>and then expect it to all come together for said OTP in your final hour.<hr></blockquote><br>Final hour?  Isn't the window of opportunity for redemption just the final five minutes or (probably) less?  Even William Shakespeare assisted by a thousand typewriting monkeys couldn't write that scene.<div class='signature'><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE ITALIC... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Ugh.  The big fight, followed by passionate embrace/making out/sex is the LAST thing I want.  Any other time, that would have worked, but seriously, if Veronica's in a sexual relationship with Piz, I think that suggests at the very least some level of committment from her.  Even if they break up, I wouldn't want her to run back to Logan that quick.  If V/P end amicably, which seems to be the most likely scenario if they do in fact break up, her going back to Logan would make <i>him</i> feel... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Random question:<br><br>What kind of scenario would people find acceptable as an ending for Logan and Veronica? Knowing what we know, that is. Is there anything, after the events of the last five episodes, that could leave you with a satisfied and/or happy feeling about L/V?<br><br>A lot of people have said they'd really like to see Veronica going to Logan to apologize in the finale scene, and Logan rejecting her. I agree that kind of ending would make a lot of sense and be good for Logan,... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I'm with you, Jennifer.  The writing this season has ranged from mediocre to execrable, but every relationship beat thus far has been written with L/V in mind -- their reactions to each other, etc.  The V/P schmoop/sex/ick spoilers do give me pause, but there still does seem to be an emphasis on Logan's reaction and actions and how V feels about that.  Most of the upcoming romantic plot beats still seem to be about L/V, even though they're with other people.  It still doesn't preclude the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I wish RT hadn't killed my love for Veronica and this show. For those reasons alone, his finale will not work. You can't beat people over the head with an increasingly unlikable lead character, crappy written arcs, an underdeveloped character shoved down their throats, constantly giving interviews where you bash one half of your OTP, and then expect it to all come together for said OTP in your final hour. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :crazy --><img... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Yes, this is the crux of it, isn't it? No one scene, no matter how glorious, can make up for what's coming. But, like you, I'm still interested to see what that scene is. Because if it's good, then I won't feel the need to chuck my S1 and S2 DVDs in the trash. I'll still write this whole season off as a waste of good acting talent, but knowing that the arc of the season was L/V and not V/P will make earlier seasons... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Then it's official. There's no way to know until the finale is done, and by that point it won't matter.<br><br>This is the opposite of fun. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ GuySpy knowing something about 16-17 wouldn't prove anything other than that he talked to a critic who got a review copy. Just FYI. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sigh, with all of this said, and even if this is the method to the madness, I still believe that RT has chosen such a horrible route to take LoVe this season. I truly, honestly do, and no amount of good storytelling can make up for it. There were so many ways he could have gone with Logan and Veronica after season one, even after season two. Yet, if the above is the case here (proving that the L/P and V/P stuff is all... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Yeah.  I think I'm still leaning toward the get out of my life scene being the pivotal scene.  I don't know what RT is talking about with the glorious and whenever he says he likes something I get nervous so I'm not really excited for that.  <br><br>I tend to believe those that think the important relationship moments in the final episode will be Keith/Veronica related.  Because, well, it has always been that way in the past and there is the big election that could be rocked by Veronica's... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don't know about all the spoilers, I don't know.  I honestly think the fight stuff/tells Aaron was confusion on his part.  Also, I noted that we don't know if the info he's getting is 100% accurate.  He could be getting bits and pieces and is putting it together in a way where he's going to get some misses with his hits.   One of the main things that got me though was that from what I heard from a few sources (and, no, I don't know that they're as reliable as our regular source), Veronica... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ LOL You moved the post on me.  Crisis of double posting averted!<br><br>Despite your improved confidence I'm still not sure about GuySpy's spoilers.  Largely because of one really blurry section of the spoilers that still hasn't been explained to my satisfaction.  So if you have new confidence now maybe you can explain it to me.  <br><br>Guyspy said that Veronica witnessed Logan beating up Piz and that she already knew at that time that Piz was innocent.  This is in episode nineteen.  He said... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I am not trying to be all Pollyanna here and defend these spoilers, but I have been thinking about all of them and have a more positive outlook ...<br><br>1. When the detailed spoilers for M.A.D. and ATttD (them making out, Logan asking V to Catalina, Logan bringing the drugs, Veronica finding out the whole rape thing, being okay with D, making out with Logan not much later, etc.) came out, everyone cried foul, called them foilers, said they were horribly out of character and there was no way... ]]></description>

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